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Subject: Re: [trans-ws] Specfification text re taxonomies
Hi Stephen,
Thank you very much for the information. It certainly looks as if the
www.unece.org schemas are a prime candidate for use, in that they are
already accessible and (hopefully) unece will maintain the lists. As you
say the schemas are similar, but not identical. In addition we supply
the English country names, which makes use of the code list easier and
clearer to understand.
I have no strong feelings about this and I can see great benefit from
using the unece lists. We have adopted the UBL template for validation
list schemas based on the UBL TC recommendations. These involved a lot
of time and discussion within the UBL TC and so were well thought out
and fully justified.
I think that there are two things that we can do in view of the above:
1) Contact the UBL TC and request their guidance.
2) Get in touch with unece re Language Codes.
It may be that the UBL and unece schemas can be unified, which would be
the best of both worlds.
I will ask Mavis Cournane on behalf of the UBL TC for her advice on
these issues.
Best Regards,
AZ
Stephen.Flinter@connectcgs.com wrote:
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> Andrzej,
>
> I'm in the process of integrating your UBL XML Schemas in my WSDL (which
> I'll post shortly). In the process of doing a bit of research, I've come
> across this site:
> http://www.unece.org/etrades/unedocs/repository/codelists/xml/codelist.htm
> which contains a number of UBL schemas (see here for the set of files
> http://www.unece.org/etrades/unedocs/repository/codelists/xml/).
>
> Among them they have the ISO 3166 set of countries, but not languages, as
> far as I can see. They also have ISO 4217 currencies, which may be of
> interest to us (although the NZD value is duplicated - a typo, I assume).
>
> However, this raises a larger question, is there, or is there going to be,
> a single UBL for every applicable ISO/ANSI/whatever standard? I.e. the set
> of codes relating to a given standard reside in one know location, with a
> single, unchanging XML namespace. Although your UBL XSD for ISO 3166 is
> similar to the UNECE one, it's not identical. At the very least the
> namespace is going to be different.
>
> I would see this as an issue with a web service application that handled
> multiple XML documents from different partners. If each partner had a
> different namespace for its coutry code list, in effect they are different
> sets of codes. The whole UBL thing only really works if there is a single
> canonical UBL version of each set of standardised codes, and that every XML
> document refers to the same UBL schema for the same code type (currency,
> language, whatever).
>
> Anyway, I digress - I don't want to get involved in the UBL TC as well as
> the WSTranslation one!
>
> A few final points. Firstly, are there other UBL schemas defined out there
> that would be useful to us? In particular, we'll need one for MIME types
> for the querySuport operation.
>
> Secondly, is there a standard or recommended way to map the code to the
> description of the code in UBL. In your UBL schemas you have an
> <annotation> tag, where as the UNECE schemas have the descriptions as XML
> comments.
>
> Lastly, I also had a quick look at the unit of measure UBL on the UNECE
> site. There are no units of measure that are relevant to
> translation/localisation (e.g. word, file, etc.). Given that somebody
> somewhere has a need of a unit of measure of "horse power day per air dry
> metric ton", (code "32" if you're interested) perhaps we could look at the
> units of measure that we're interested in.
>
> Steve
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> Andrzej Zydron
> <azydron@xml-intl To: trans-ws@lists.oasis-open.org
> .com> cc: Mavis Cournane <mcournane@cognitran.com>
> Subject: [trans-ws] Specfification text re taxonomies
> 08/02/2004 15:25
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>
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>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The following is my (draft) text regarding code verification in the
> Trans WS spec:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The model for schema enabled presentation and validation of code list
> for country code, languages and content domains is based on the OASIS
> UBL recommendation "Universal Business Language (UBL)
> Code List Rules"
> (
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/archive/wd-ublndrsc-codelist-01.pdf
> )
>
> The UBL Code List Rules recommend the "Multiple Namespace Types Method"
> whereby the elements that represent a code from a particular list are
> bound to types that may have come from an external organization's schema
> module.
>
> The instance of each code instance is related by namespace to the
> validating schema document e.g.:
>
> <doc xmlns:iso3166="http://example.iso.org/schemas/CountryCodesISO3166.xsd
> ">
> <langCode><iso3166:CodeContentType>US</iso3166:CodeContentType></langCode>
> </doc>
>
> The Translation Web Services specification defines the following code
> verification schemas:
>
> 1) CountryCodesISO3166.xsd for ISO 3166 Country codes.
> 2) LanguageCodesISO639.xsd for ISO 639.2 language codes.
> 3) TransWSDomains.xsd for translation specific domain classifications
> based on ATA (American Translators Association) list of domains.
>
> These schemas will be hosted by <TBA> and can be referenced by the
> following URL addresses:
>
> <TBA>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Please can everyone sense check my text in case I have made any
> mistakes. I have also asked Mavis Cournane of the OASIS UBL TC to kindly
> check as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> AZ
>
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