Re: [ubl-dev] questions about DespatchAdvice for an Implementation in Italy (Delivery note for worked component/DDT Reso da conto lavorazione)

["Fabio Ferronato-Armet s.p.a." <fabio.f.armet@gmail.com>]

 

    Hi Arrianna,

thank you for the list. I checked it, but I was not able to find what I am searching for.

I guess maybe this is the first time anybody has this problem !?

 

I mean, maybe up to know UBL ( and any EDI ) has been used only in case of selling goods,

not for some kind of processing( paiting, chroming, welding...). This means, all despatch advices were

meant to be of "sell" type.

 

I'll try to search some more on the EDIFACT documentation, but I think I will have to set up my own code list :-/

 

regards

 

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Arianna Brutti <arianna.brutti@enea.it> wrote:

Good morning Mr Ferronato,

UBL specification doesn't recomend a code list for the Despatch Advice Type Code.

My suggestion is to check if the UN/ECE 1001 code list could be useful for your purpose:

http://www.unece.org/trade/untdid/d00a/tred/tred1001.htm

Important: remember to specify the code list you are using by the attribute listID, etc. ...

Best regards

Arianna Brutti


il Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:14:51 +0200 (CEST)
 "Roberto Cisternino" <roberto@javest.com> ha scritto:

Dear Mr. Ferronato,

maybe you could be interested into UBL ITLSC (Italian Localization
Subcommittee) which is available in Italy since 2006.

By the way, if you need an advanced DDT I would suggest the UBL WayBill
which is intended for international transport (lettera di vettura), this
way you will be sure all your data will be supported.

You are right about the "Despatch Advice Type Code" but many code list in
UBL are just a place holder, thus are not provided with the Standard.

In fact codelists are decoupled from the document model and this provides
more robust and extensible business documents.

You can use a local (national) codelist, or you can agree a codelist with
your partners.
I suggest to contact the UBL ITLSC co-chair "arianna.brutti@enea.it" that
could be aware of an existing codelists implemented into other italian UBL
adoptions.

Best regards

UBL ITLSC
co-chair
Roberto Cisternino

  Hi All,
I work in a middle sized Italian company and I would like to use UBL for
exchanging data with our suppliers.
All examples/documentation about UBL seem to talk about "selling" goods.
In my implementation instead we need to exchange data with suppliers that
do
some working on the components that we send to them.

The first document that I would like to implement is the Delivery Note
(Italian: DDT or Documento Di Trasporto).
I was able to map *NEARLY* all data to a UBL DespatchAdvice, but there are
some things that I am not able to find and are:

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- date of starting shipment:
 I am not able to find it. Even in the section Consigment
 There is already a field  "issue Date" but I use it to indicate when the
delivery note was issued.
 The real start of shipment is in many cases the day after

- price:
 Typically it is *NOT* shown on the Delivery Note, but however I would
like
to have it here.
 Is there any field for it  ?

- kind of delivery note:
 Some of our suppliers sell us goods (part of chairs)
        or
 we send them some row material, they work it and then send it us back

 In the first case the delivery note is type "sell" [Italian: DDT di
vendita]
 In the second case the delivery note is type "work" (proper English
terminology?) [however in Italian is DDT *Reso* da conto *lavorazione*].
There are also many other kinds of delivery note.Where can I set this in
the
DespatchAdvice ?
I think in the Despatch Advice Type Code, but where can I find a standard
list of possible values ?

[list end]


Here below I write a typical example.

Involved companies are:
A-c.h.a.i.r.s.-corp
B-w.e.l.d.i.n.g.s.-inc
C-p.a.i.t.i.n.g.-corp

Company "A-c.h.a.i.r.s.-corp" wants to produce some metal chairs and cuts
some metal tubes,
which are sent to "B-w.e.l.d.i.n.g.s.-inc", where they have to be welded
together.

Then "B-w.e.l.d.i.n.g.s.-inc" welds together the tubes and produce a chair
metal frame.
The metal frames are sent to "C-p.a.i.t.i.n.g.-corp" to be painted in
black.

Company "A-c.h.a.i.r.s.-corp" would like to know rapidly how many chair
metal frames have been sent
from "B-w.e.l.d.i.n.g.s.-inc"
to "C-p.a.i.t.i.n.g.-corp"

using a DespatchAdvice UBL document.

thank you in advance for helping with the 3 fields and for any other
comments,

Fabio Ferronato
Armet s.p.a.
-ITALY-

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