RE: [ubl-psc] UBL 2.0 Update proposals

["Martin Forsberg" <martin.forsberg@ecru.se>]

Peter,

I agree - there is something missing in OrderResponse to make a clear
statement whether you accept or not. In EDIFACT and in the future cefact
order, you have a response type on header-level (document level) and on line
level where the status is given. 

/Martin



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Borresen [mailto:plb@itst.dk]
> Sent: den 22 november 2007 15:08
> To: Martin Forsberg; ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: SV: [ubl-psc] UBL 2.0 Update proposals
> 
> Hi Martin
> 
> Then, maybe you can help me anwering a question: How can you tell
> whether
> nothing has changed from the Order to the OrderRepesponse?  When are
> two
> instances of theese to different messages alike?
> 
> An acknowledging ordering flow must end with an OrderResponseSimple. To
> my
> mind OrderResponseSimple is not a simple version of orderResponse, but
> a
> document, that ends the ordering process.
> 
> Putting an AcceptIndication into OrderResponse will redefine both
> documents.
> I am not sure we agreed on this in NES (becaused we sticked to the
> orderResponseSimple), but I am sure that I managed to convince Mark
> that
> There was a need for OrderResponseSimple, or orderResponse Stupid, as
> he
> called it.
> 
> Let's say that we have an AcceptIndicator in OrderReponse. If that one
> is set
> to true and one of the lines has changed. What does it means? Or
> opposite if
> the AcceptIndicator is false and nothing has changed? Accepting or
> rejecting
> the Order as a whole is a diffenrent scope than the OrderResponse,
> which
> really is an OrderLineRespose Sample.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Martin Forsberg [mailto:martin.forsberg@ecru.se]
> Sendt: 22. november 2007 14:23
> Til: Peter Borresen; 'Tim McGrath'; ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Emne: RE: [ubl-psc] UBL 2.0 Update proposals
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I must disagree with your disagreement :)
> 
> *****
> PLB: I disagree with this because, it conflicts with the use of
> OrderResponse. OrderReponse is allways used when something in the order
> is
> not accepted, otherwise the OrderResponseSimple (OrderAccept +
> OrderReject´as
> one document) is used.
> *****
> 
> You can make a full accept with OrderResponse (no changes on any lines
> or
> accept with changes). If the seller substitutes an item, based on the
> buyers
> proposal, then I would say the OrderResponse is an acceptance. Or does
> it say
> somewhere that only OrderResponseSimple can be used for full
> accept/reject? I
> know we've had this discussionen in NES, but I can't remember the
> outcome.
> 
> /Martin
> 
> 
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