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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 21 February 2018 01:00UTC - voting meeting

Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 21 February 2018 01:00UTC - voting meeting
(thanks to Kenneth Bengtsson for convening the call)


  Todd Albers
  Kenneth Bengtsson (convenor)
  Levine Naidoo

    Regrets received in advance:

    G. Ken Holman


     - the following should be used as a specific citation:
       OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
     - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
       OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
     - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository:
     - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry is found at:
     - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at:


    Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
     - no new events to add at this time

    Review of Pacific call minutes

    Review of Atlantic call minutes

    Membership status review

     - voting status is determined by the following:
       - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
         maintain voting status
       - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
         voting status
       - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
         their voting status is not impacted
     - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
       - Todd Albers
         - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
           Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
       - Oriol Bausà Peris
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
       - Kenneth Bengtsson
         - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
       - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
         - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
       - Peter Borresen
         - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
       - Kees Duvekot
         - Member OASIS BDXR
       - Cécile Guasch
         - Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2,
           European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
       - G. Ken Holman
         - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
       - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
         - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
     - members approaching losing voting status after this week's meeting:
       - Oriol Bausà Peris
       - Kenneth Bengtsson
     - members approaching gaining voting status after this week's meeting:
       - Levine Naidoo
         - Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia
    - active non-voting members
       - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
         - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
       - Roberto Cisternino
         - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
       - Audun Vennesland
     - new member orientation information:

UBL 2.2
  - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
  - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
  - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
  - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents

  - the finalized UBL 2.2 CSPRD02 comment disposition has been prepared:

    - are we agreed that this document accurately reflects the disposition
      of the comments received during the UBL 2.2 CSPRD02 public review
      and do we approve of it being finalized, subject to any non-material
      changes directed by TC Administration as may be required?


      - continue vote at the Atlantic meeting

  - the UBL 2.2 CSPRD03 public review draft has been prepared to be
    approved to be released for a third public review of only 15 days:

    - do we approve submitting UBL 2.2 Committee Specification Public
      Review Draft 03 (CSPRD03) package 20180219-1930z for a
      15-day review as packaged here, subject to any non-material changes
      directed by TC Administration as may be required?


      - continue vote at the Atlantic meeting

  - Ken will draft the committee note approach to resolving this for
    extension writers

  - countdown to standardization outlined in our UBL Governance document:


    - CSPRD03 draft ready for February 14, voting on February 21
    - 15 day review
    - Candidate OASIS Standard COS1 prepared in mid March
- https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process-2017-05-26#OSsubmission
    - search begins for Statements of Use of candidate UBL 2.2
      - we need three statements of use to make UBL 2.2 a final standard
- https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2017-05-26#dStatementUse
    - 15-day TC Administration review by end of March
    - 60-day public review of COS1 over end of May
    - 14-day OASIS member ballot at beginning of June
    - late June UBL 2.2 becomes an OASIS Standard
    - mid-May we will begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845
      - current thoughts are we will wait until 2.3 before updating 19845
    - we never know what the TC Admin workload will be at any given step
      to know if any steps will be delayed
    - we are already 6 months from our original objective of end of 2017

UBL 2.3
  - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited
    in other correspondence:


  - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
  - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
  - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
  - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
  - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents
  - based on the UBL 2.2 schedule outlined above, changes could be started
    for UBL 2.3 consideration after UBL 2.2 finalized
- we are on schedule for this once UBL 2.2 CSPRD03 is out for public review
  - we should further consider the idea raised earlier of splitting UBL into
    different normative parts

UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee
  - upcoming face-to-face during the Exchange Summit Americas conference
    http://www.exchange-summit.com/exa/miami May 8-9, 2017 in Miami, Florida

Outreach and communications
  - work progressing on analyzing current communication channels

UBL Transportation Subcommittee
  - new document types discussed at the face-to-face

OASIS Business Document Naming and Design Rules
  - Ken to prototype proposed augmented extension mechanism first discussed
    at the Fremantle face-to-face:
    - add an extension point at the beginning of *every* ABIE, not just the
      document ABIEs

JSON Task Group
  - the TC continues to invite public comment on the latest versions of
    these specifications until such time as we agree to progress the documents
    to their next steps in the process:


  - awaiting TC Administration feedback regarding:


    - as this is a facet of the public perception of an OASIS specification,
      the OASIS TC Administration not only needs to be involved, but they are
      the ones to do the heavy lifting with IANA with an amalgam of our
      needs and their needs, so we have to work with them and through them
      - ticket created for tracking:


  - Ken will be creating a new working draft to remove nothing but add some
    guidelines regarding those extensions to UBL that are specified using
    CCTS (per the scope of the work product), recognizing there is no attempt
    to transliterate arbitrary XML into JSON
  - Kenneth is looking to contact projects using JSON on MongoDB, please
    contact him if you have any information to share
  - comment posted for review from Tradeshift
    - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00000.html
  - comment posted for review from Australia (though it is an indirect link
    and not properly posted for commenting), and it appears to be observations
    and not a specific comment for action
    - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00001.html

JIRA tickets
   https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 (note that the view can
   be changed using the box icon at top right; the list view provides the most
   summary information, without the detail view obscuring the screen space)

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     by how they are described to be used as categories:
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       in the summary filter

   - status and resolution values:
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             consideration or not for the development distribution
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     - RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
     - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future
                          minor revision but not the current development
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     - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution
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                         availability of the disposition once review opened)
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   - the face-to-face meeting in Australia was very successful and fruitful
   - should we be planning our next face-to-face meeting?


2018-02-21 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-02-21 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe 2018-02-28 UBL Pacific - 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney 2018-02-28 UBL Atlantic - 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

  Notes regarding teleconference times:


  Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future?  For
  privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

 TC calendar:

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  - none

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