Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 28 August 2019 14:00UTC

[Kenneth Bengtsson <kbengtsson@efact.pe>]

Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 28 August 2019 14:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2019-08-28T14:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Oriol Bausa Peris

Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

Peter Borresen

Andrea Caccia

Ger Clancy

Kees Duvekot

Cecile Guasch

Philip Helger

Ken Holman

Yves Jordan

Matt Vickers

 

Pacific call:

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)

 

Regrets:

 

Levine Naidoo

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

Nothing

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201908/msg00021.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201908/msg00016.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o  Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition

-  Oriol Bausa Peris

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Andrea Caccia

o Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o  Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o  DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Ger Clancy

-  Kees Duvekot

o  Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the StandaardisatieÂplatform e-factureren

-  Cecile Guasch

o Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)

-  Philip Helger

-  G. Ken Holman

o  Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Yves Jordan

 

UBL 2.3

 

Please progress unaddressed JIRA tickets, especially the ones from UBL 2.2.

 

Remember to become watchers of a ticket in order to get push notifications ... for example with the ticket number in ###: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-###

 

Open issues at: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972

 

Managing requirements:

-  CÃcile: pre-award documents

-  Kees: post-award documents

-  Peter: transportation documents

-  Kenneth and Todd: payments and finance documents

-  Ger and Kenneth: party information documents

 

Ken available to edit artefacts for UBL 2.3 with support from the members of the TC.

 

Subcommittee chairs are reminded of the documentation requirements for new UBL documents recorded in these minutes under âDocumentationâ:

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00003.html

 

Subcommittee process for forwarding changes to the main committee:

-  Subcommittee edits test spreadsheet for test schemas

-  Ken will make test schemas for the subcommittee

-  The subcommittee proposes a summary of their changes to the main TC in a mail message, citing your test schemas for reference

-  At a teleconference the main TC approves the changes

-  Ken adds the changes to the main spreadsheets and publish new schemas for public review

-  Guidelines for preparing spreadsheet columns discussed in: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-179

-  Image submission:

o  A revisable vector form is required (e.g. SVG)

o  A bit image form is required:

  Width of 3425 pixels @ 600dpi = 5.7083in/14.5cm = 1712 pixels @ 300dpi

 

ISO submission

 

Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:

https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html

 

Ken will document the kinds of changes to be made to the existing text.

 

ISO requirements being discussed here: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240

 

UBL 2.3 First Public Review

 

UBL 2.3 Public Review has been announced and will end September 19:

https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-ubl-v2-3-ends-sept-19th

 

Comments received so far:

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00003.html

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00004.html

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00006.html

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201908/msg00018.html

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201908/msg00019.html

 

Activities:

-  Check if posted to the UBL group on LinkedIn (Kenneth)

-  Post announcement to ubl.xml.org (Kenneth)

-  Post announcement to the ubl-dev mailing list (Kenneth)

-  Announce to PEPPOL and Norwegian users (Erlend)

-  Announce to users within the European Commission (Cecile)

-  EESPA (Kenneth to contact Charles)

 

To submit comments:

TC members should submit comments directly to the TC mailing list: ubl@lists.oasis-open.org

Non-TC member MUST submit comments to the TC Comments list: ubl-comment@lists.oasis-open.org

 

Payment Means Committee Note

 

30-day public review started 30 July 2019 and ends 28 Augusts 2019: https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-ubl-payment-means-information-v1-0-ends-august-28th

 

Comments received:

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00001.html

 

UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)

 

Nothing

 

UBL Post-award

 

Requiring further discussion after PRD01:

-  More dedicated document references in Reminder: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-177

-  Agreed to put this ticket on the agenda for the face-to-face meeting.

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Discussion about statistical reporting formats: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-223.

-  Proposal to add new ReceivedSubmissionStatistics ABIE to describe statistical information.

 

Discussion about _expression_ of Interest: https://issues.oasis-open.org/projects/UBL/issues/UBL-238. Please comment.

 

Possible discrepancies in the diagrams in 2.3.3.1 Tendering (pre-award). See https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-242.

 

Resolution for https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-211 appears to not have been implemented in PRD01.

 

UBL Small Business Subcommittee (SBSC)

 

Agree to suspend activities until after the release of UBL 2.3.

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

Nothing

 

UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)

 

Nothing

 

JIRA tickets

 

Available filters:

-  Discuss: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172

-  UBL 2.x: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972

-  BDNDR: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472

-  All UBL: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670

-  TCAdmin: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070

 

When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel

If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.

 

Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.

 

JIRA status and resolution value definitions

Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.

 

Our current definitions are:

 

-  NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution

o  in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter

o  the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED

o  please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972

-  OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution

o  keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation

o  please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action

-  RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test

-  RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released

-  RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version

-  RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development

-  RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution

-  RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution

-  APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)

-  DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision

o  please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes

-  See also the discussion on the status workflows here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Thursday every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility) â on hold until after the release of PRD01

-  Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at 13:30UTC (will be using Natalie's WebEx facility)

-  Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis

 

Face-to-face

 

Agreed to open the Zoom facility during the face-to-face meeting or part of the meeting for those members not able to travel to Copenhagen.

 

Peter has created a Doodle to see who will attend the face-to-face meeting, please respond here: https://doodle.com/poll/i6a43x2swtcfsehr

 

Agreed to have our next face-to-face meeting in the week 23 to 27 of September in Copenhagen (DK). Thanks to Clearview Trade for hosting the meeting.

 

Meeting will commence Monday at 13:00 CEST and end Friday at 12:00 CEST.

 

The meeting will be held at Clearview Tradeâs facilities at:

 

Diplomvej 381, 2800 Kongens Lyngby (in the area of the Technical University of Denmark).

https://www.google.dk/maps/place/Diplomvej+381,+2800+Kongens+Lyngby/@55.7828646,12.5106569,17z/data="">

 

Nearby hotels:

 

Hotel Postgaarden, https://www.postgaardenhotel.dk/

Scandic Erimitagen, https://www.guestreservations.com/scandic-eremitage/booking?gclid=CjwKCAjw-ITqBRB7EiwAZ1c5U5Q8eXbHcGadJlXXE-FjvENYeFEZFB9Zshoc6X7-O1C_9BAlFpra7RoCNzoQAvD_BwE

 

Public transportation:

Take bus 300E from Lyngby Station, get off at Elektrovej

Line A and E goes to Lyngby, you can change at NÃrreport St.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Call schedule

 

2019-09-04

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-09-11

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-09-18

-  Cancelled due to the following weekâs face-to-face meeting

2019-09-25

-  Face-to-face meeting

2019-10-02

-  Cancelled due to the previous weekâs face-to-face meeting

2019-10-09

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-10-16

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-10-23

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-10-30

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-11-06

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-11-13

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-11-20

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2019-11-27

-  Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Outline of teleconference times for 2019

 

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201812/msg00000.html

(Note the date for the Australia time change is indicated incorrectly)

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

 

Other business

 

Nothing