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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 07 February 2024 15:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 07 February 2024 15:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2024-02-07T15:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Andrea Caccia

Paul Donohoe

Sander Fieten

Yves Jordan

Ole Madsen

 

Pacific call:

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

Kees Duvekot

Ken Holman

Levine Naidoo

 

Regrets:

 

Peter Borresen

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

None

 

Wikipedia page

Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00002.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00022.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR TC, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Andrea Caccia

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the NEN TC 434

-  Sander Fieten

o Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC

-  Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Ole Madsen

o DK Member CEN/TC440

-  Levine Naidoo

o Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.4

 

Statement of use received from Semantic: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202312/msg00007.html

 

UBL 2.5

 

Deprecation Policy

 

The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)

 

Publishing tools

 

Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.

 

Erlend has presented a strawman proposal for a YAML-format for documenting 2.5 work: https://github.com/klakegg/oasis-ubl-model. Agreed that the functionality added by a structured format adds value, not least when adding the complexity of deprecated components. A “front end” layer will be needed for business users to maintain the files.

 

Master spreadsheets for UBL 2.5 are available here:

-  Library elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18o1YqjHWUw0-s8mb3ja4i99obOUhs-4zpgso6RZrGaY/

-  Document elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1024Th-Uj8cqliNEJc-3pDOR7DxAAW7gCG4e-pbtarsg/

 

Ken has created a list of changes based on Definition and Cardinality that can be used to populate the “Last change” column: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00013.html. Kenneth will work on updating the spreadsheet models.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.

 

Semantic library review

 

Documents reviewed by the TC:

 

-  ApplicationResponse

-  AttachedDocument

-  DocumentStatus

-  DocumentStatusRequest

 

UBL 2.5 issues:

 

-  UBL-357, ESG Information elements:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357

o Ole reported that the Danish authorities are initiating work with product passport and other ESG reporting

o Input from Levine here:

§ https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357?focusedCommentId=84141&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-84141

§ https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/12125/UBL%202.5%20Library%20Elements%20Spreadsheet%20-%20PCF%20Elements.xlsx

o Kenneth will create a first draft for UBL 2.5 based on Levine’s data model.

 

-  Digital product passport discussion:

o https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00018.html

o The TC agrees that UBL shall facilitate the requirements of the digital product passport. A new Product Passport document type will be developed for UBL 2.5.

o The requirements are not entirely clear yet. It is anticipated that the EU will send out request for standardization this year.

o CEN/CENELEC has established JTC 24 to work on the digital product passport. The UBL TC ideally would like to establish a formal liaison with JTC 24, however, the establishing of a formal way to liaise with CEN at committee level is still pending.

o Kenneth will open a new ticket to track work on the product passport data model. Peter volunteered to be assigned the ticket.

 

-  UBL-375, Standardize use of ApplicationResponse, DocumentStatus, EnquiryResponse, DocumentStatusRequest, and Enquiry:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-375

o Identified that the use of ApplicationResponse in the Billing diagrams (figures 77, 78 and 79) is incorrect. Kenneth will open a separate ticket.

 

-  UBL-376, Deprecate AttachedDocument document type:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-376

o Cecile will reach out to the European Commission to ask for the status of its use.

 

-  UBL-377, new InvoiceResponse document type:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-377

 

Agreed to review supplementary components at our next face-to-face meeting, i.e., the XML attributes listed here: https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/UBL-2.4.html#T-UBL-UNQUALIFIED-DATA-TYPES

 

Can we make a tool that users can run in their local environments to create a report about the use of supplementary components?

-  Creating a stylesheet to extract the information is simple, but how do we get it out to the users? And what will we use the results for?

 

Specification review

 

Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.

 

Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.

 

Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.

 

JSON syntax binding

 

Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.

 

Subcommittee reports

 

UBL Post-award

 

Nothing

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Cecile will send a list of change requests and observations for the semantic library review.

 

Cecile is leaving the TC and stepping down as subcommittee chair. Candidates for the pre-award SC chair?

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

Launch of public feedback period for first eFTI draft implementing act, see: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/202310/msg00000.html. The requirement model has been published. The TSC will convene to discuss how to reply.

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

Nothing

 

Payments and Finance SC

 

Nothing

 

TC Liaisons

 

CEN TCs 434 and 440

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

Last year’s SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.

 

ISO TC 323 (WG5)

 

A motion was made by Kenneth that the TC approves Andrea as liaison representative between the ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the OASIS UBL TC in accordance with the OASIS Liaison Policy. The motion was approved by all members attending the Pacific and Atlantic calls. Kenneth will inform OASIS about the decision.

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Face-to-face meeting

 

Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?

 

Spring meeting:

 

-  Budapest

o Possibility to be hosted by the MSZT (Hungarian standardization body)

-  May 27-30, 2024

o Craft Conference will be held the same week, May 30-31 (https://craft-conf.com/2024)

o XML Prague is the following week, June 6-8 (https://www.xmlprague.cz)

 

Fall meeting:

 

-  Invitation from Logius to meet in The Hague

o Peter suggested that Logius could host us back-to-back to a general UBL conference. Peter will follow up.

-  Dates? For example, after Declarative Amsterdam, for example November 11-14 2024?

 

Call schedule

 

2024-02-13/2024-02-14

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-02-20/2024-02-21

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-02-27/2024-02-28

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-05/2024-03-06

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-12/2024-03-13

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-19/2024-03-20

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-26/2024-03-27

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-02/2024-04-03

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-09/2024-04-10

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-16/2024-04-17

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-23/2024-04-24

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-30/2024-05-01

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-05-07/2024-05-08

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-05-14/2024-05-15

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-05-21/2024-05-22

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Other business

 

None

 



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