Re: [wsrp][interfaces] separate administration interface, requirements

[Alejandro Abdelnur <alejandro.abdelnur@sun.com>]

Carsten,

Thanks for you answer. I think we are not agreeing with the 
requirements, let me rephrase things:

WSRP must have an administration interface for administering portlet 
configuration and settings attributes.
A producer must provide metadata about the portlet configuration and 
settings attributes.

Forcing the consumer to display the portlet to administer/configure is 
too restrictive. Not requiring an administration interface and the 
corresponding metadata will force the consumer to display the portlet 
for its administration.

Do we want a consumer to be able to have tools (other than a markup 
based ones) administer/configure portlets in a producer? For example, 
command line tools or fat client tools.

Regards.

Alejandro.


Carsten Leue wrote:

>Alejandro - in principle I agree with the requirements. Here are my
>comments (I modified your wording):
>
>[R-##1] WSRP SHOULD allow portlets to administer portlet
>configuration and settings.
>
>Your original wording sounds to me as if the WSRP interface needs to supply
>some additional mechanism for this administration. I believe that it could
>also be achieved by letting the portlet display
>administration/configuration screens and/or use the get/setProperties
>mechanism.
>
>[R-##2]
>I don't see the point behind this requirement. Can you detail?
>
>[R-##3] WSRP MAY provide a mean to describe the configuration and
>setting attributes of a portlet as metadata.
>
>These attributes can also be discovered at runtime and change dynamically.
>Why would they need to be exposed as metadata.
>
>[R-##4]
>
>Agreed.
>
>[R-##5] WSRP SHOULD NOT require a portlet to be displayed by a consumer
>in order to be administered.
>
>The current concept uses the template for this purpose. So maybe this
>fulfills the requirement. However the template would have to be
>instantiated and displayed. But that's not the portlet itself.
>
>[R-##6]
>
>Agreed.
>
>
>
>Best regards
>Carsten Leue
>
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>As promised, I've compiled a list of requirements on this matter. Please
>let me know of any corrections/additions.
>
>Regards.
>
>Alejandro
>
>
>* Definitions for the purposes of the requirements that follow:
>
>'Configuration and settings' of a portlet are attributes that act as
>parameters for the behavior or functionality of a portlet. For example,
>a NewsPortlet could be configured to display sport news from Europe.
>
>'Personalization' of a portlet is when users customize the configuration
>and settings of a portlet for themselves.
>
>'Administration' of a portlet is when users customize the configuration
>and settings of a portlet for users other than themselves.
>
>* Requirements:
>
>[R-##1] WSRP SHOULD provide a mechanism for administering portlet
>configuration and settings.
>
>[R-##2] WSRP SHOULD NOT assume that administration of portlet
>configuration an settings is dependent on any particular UI framework.
>
>[R-##3] WSRP SHOULD provide a mean to describe the configuration and
>setting attributes of a portlet as metadata.
>
>[R-##4] WSRP SHOULD NOT impose a specific configuration and settings
>attributes data model on the producer.
>
>[R-##5] WSRP SHOULD NOT require a portlet to be displayed by a consumer
>in order to be administered.
>
>[R-##6] WSRP SHOULD allow different security requirements for
>administration and personalization functions.
>
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