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Subject: Re: [xcbf] Teleconference Meeting

I have a certain amount of sympathy with A's proposals below for the agenda.

Engineering two further meetings in order to get or to exclude voting 
membership is NOT the right way to progress an International Standard.

On item 1) from A,  I fully support that.  We need to decide in broad 
terms how to move forward.  That means an overall decision re BASE64, 
and decisions on what ASN.1 encoding rules will be referenced, on the 
timing of future ballots, and on the editorial work needed to prepare 
for them.  As Phil has resigned as Editor,  I am prepared to offer 
myself again for that role PROVIDED we can reach basic agreement on what 
is to be in the documnent.

On item 2) from A, this is more long-term, and could perhaps be deferred 
to a subsequent meeting.  It would be a shame if this Standard did not 
continue to embrace efficient binary encodings as well as XML encodings, 
which ASN.1 provides.

I am not sure of the OASIS rules for setting the Agenda for a meeting.

Surely as a minimum the Chair should normally be expected to include 
items proposed by a member?  Otherwise I will begin to lose faith in 
either the Chair or in OASIS or both.

John L

Alessandro Triglia wrote:
> Since the agenda is not yet fixed, I propose the following additions to 
> the agenda:
> 1) Discuss a way forward,  possibly including application of needed 
> changes to the XCBF document, approval of a new CS by the TC, and 
> submission of the new CS to OASIS for standardization by May 15 - 
> provided that an Editor is appointed shortly.
> 2) Version 2:  Short preliminary discussion on establishing a 
> procedure to ensure alignment of the future revised/augmented message 
> definitions in version 2 of XCBF with the ASN.1 standards, including the 
> soon-to-be-approved EXTENDED-XER Amendment.  Agreement that ASN.1 will 
> remain the only data definition language used in the future versions of 
> Alessandro
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Phillip H. Griffin [mailto:phil.griffin@asn-1.com]
>     Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 20:33
>     To: [OASIS XCBF]
>     Subject: Re: [xcbf] Teleconference Meeting
>     This meeting will last one half hour. The agenda is not yet fixed
>     but will include setting a schedule for two additional meetings.
>     Prospective members who attend all three of these meetings
>     will become eligible to vote. We have two new members in this
>     category.
>     Voting members who fail to attend two successive meetings
>     and receive a warning from the chair will have their membership
>     terminated on failure to attend the next meeting following
>     transmittal of the warning.
>     Phil
>     Paul Thorpe wrote:
>>Hi Phil,
>>What will be the agenda for this meeting?  Also, how long do you expect
>>this meeting to run?  I ask this because will be in another meeting at
>>that time, but may be able to step out briefly depending on the agenda and
>>the expected duration of the teleconference.
>>Paul E. Thorpe                                 Toll Free    : 1-888-OSS-ASN1
>>OSS Nokalva                                    International: 1-732-302-0750
>>Email: thorpe@oss.com                          Tech Support : 1-732-302-9669
>>http://www.oss.com                             Fax          : 1-732-302-0023
>>On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Phillip H. Griffin wrote:
>>>I would like to try to schedule a short teleconference
>>>meeting for 9 am Easter Time (US) on Friday April 25.
>>>Please respond to me directly, not to the list, as to your
>>>ability to attend a meeting at this time.

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