Re: [humanmarkup-comment] Re: [uiml-discuss] RE: founding member

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

Hi Again Manos, et al,

I wanted to add a couple of interesting issues from today's meeting 
of the WSRP-WSIA Joint Interface  group, which is rapidly becoming 
indistinguishable from one larger TC, but which is getting 
hellaciously complicated, and those are that there are various kinds 
of ways in which UIs will be accommodated in that specification.

One is as a set of properties (a list of markup types, mime types, 
and specific contexts, one of which is userContext (user profile). 
Another entire issue which will impact UIs is JSR 168 which is the 
Java Community Process group that is dealing with Java-encoded 
portlets, and this protcol is being synched with Web Services Remote 
Portal so that those two protocols handle similar information the 
same way, or at least do not invalidate or conflict with each other.

Intermediary aggregators of what is called Web Services are the 
agencies which will be handling the flow of these services from the 
primary producers through SOAP using WSDL, and various look-up 
registries such as UDDI to end users--the folks with which 
HumanMarkup is most concerned in those contexts. (We also allow for 
AI and various kinds of user agents which can use our schemata for a 
multitude of purposes.)

However, the point I am making is that it is simply impossible for 
all of the different groups, and more, that I mentioned in my first 
message this morning, to be taking accurate account of each other. 
One service which I believe I heard some mention of, unless I am 
imagining it, is some kind of inter-OASIS and/or 
inter-Standards-Organizations liaison. If someone can direct me to 
the list, I would like to represent the groups with which I am most 
familiar.

Some harmonization of this growing tangle of would-be standards is 
going to be necessary.

Ciao,
Rex

At 5:50 PM +0300 10/10/02, m batsis wrote:
>Rex Brooks wrote:
>>I am copying this to the Humanmarkup public comment list in the 
>>hope that someone out there has the time to at least monitor this 
>>UIML effort so that we will not be obliged to retrofit our 
>>specifications to accommodate it if it becomes necessary, or to 
>>actively liaise if it appears wise and possibly fruitful.
>
>Since I have an interest on UIs and am familiar with related 
>vocabularies (XHTML/SVG, XForms, XUL, XBL etc) I'll be happy to 
>establish a connection with the UIML TC.
>
>I have subscribed to uiml-discuss and will have comments on the v3 
>spec by Monday.
>
>If anyone has any usefull pointers please do share.
>
>Manos


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Rex Brooks
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