Re: [office-accessibility] Exposing information about annotations

[Malte Timmermann <Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM>]

Hi Pete,

I am not sure if IAHypertext really is a good solution for this, since
there is no link to the note.

But I also have no better idea.

How would it look like with ODF 1.2, when a note starts in para <n>,
ends in para <n+x>?

Would all paragraphs have a hyperlink referencing the same note?

What about the parent relation from the note then?

Reading the rest of you email, I guess the note itself is like a drawing
object, and could then contain multiple paragraph objects, so that part
sounds good.

(I doubt that we already have a role for NOTE in UAA/ATK)

cc-ing Oliver, because he will be responsible for implementing it in the
Writer.

I guess Calc can later do it almost the same way, but linking from a
cell instead of a paragraph...

Malte.





Pete Brunet wrote, On 12/17/08 00:38:
> 
> Malte, These are implemented in Symphony a11y.
> 
> The first note is in the text "suddenly".  The IAText::text is
> "...su?ddenly...".  IAHypertext indicates a single hyperlink and
> IAHyperlink::anchorTarget returns an object with IA2 role of NOTE and an
> accValue of "Annotation".  IAComponent is implemented to indicate the
> parent relative location of the yellow box.  I can't tell with my
> tooling but I assume MSAA IAccessible::get_accLocation is also
> implemented on the NOTE object to provide the screen relative location
> of the yellow box plus the width and height of the yellow box and
> IAComponent::foreground is implemented to provide the color.
> 
> *Pete Brunet*
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> 
> From: 	Malte Timmermann <Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM>
> To: 	office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org
> Date: 	12/12/2008 11:52 AM
> Subject: 	[office-accessibility] Exposing information about annotations
> Sent by: 	Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Not sure if this is the appropriate group, or if asking IA2/ATK people
> would be better, but - we have Pete here, so he will forward to IA2 if
> needed ;)
> 
> Attached is an ODF document with some annotations.
> OOo 3 can nicely display these annotations on the screen, but it's
> unclear how to best expose them to AT.
> 
> Annotations can contain one or more paragraphs, each with its own
> formatting.
> 
> Annotations can have different colors for the different authors.
> 
> If too many annotations are used on 1 page, some annotations are not
> visible – see 2nd page.
> 
> Annotations can also be completely hidden – try Menu – View – Notes.
> 
> In ODF 1.0 and ODF 1.1 an annotation can only be at certain position in
> the text. In ODF 1.2 an annotation can annotate an arbitrary part of the
> document's content – see approved ODF 1.2 proposal found at
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200708/msg00007.html.
> 
> Questions/Suggestions:
> - They look like objects. Should they be exposed like shapes in a
> drawing? When they couldn't have formatted text, I maybe would have
> suggested to simply expose them as an attribute, but that also wouldn't
> tell the user that there are objects on the screen showing them...
> - With ODF 1.2 they can be bound to a range starting in one paragraph,
> ending in an other - how to expose this relation?
> - When turned off, there is nothing visible, so I guess nothing has to
> be exposed.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Best,
> Malte.
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> Brunet/Austin/IBM]
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