RE: [sca-bpel] Groups - SCA-BPEL Weekly meeting modified

[KHANDERAO KAND <khanderao.kand@oracle.com>]

Raw minutes of April 10th Meeting:

anish: approval of april 3rd 2008 minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00012.html 

Khanderao: Action Item : Editors to apply changes in the doc: Michael Rowley

anish: Agenda: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/event.php?event_id=16249

Khanderao: No update from Detier on Action Item 33. 

Khanderao: Action Item 33 transferred to MikeRowley 

Khanderao: Action Item 33 and 34 assigned to Mike Rowley

Khanderao: No update from Detier on Action #0034:  Editors to revise some spec sections to apply RFC 2119 terminology while using concrete conformance targets . Tentative ETA next week.

Khanderao: Re: Action Item #0036 MikeE to raise an issue with the liaison subcommittee regarding RelaxNG/Schematron 

Khanderao: Action Item 36: Done

Khanderao: Issue Discussions 13 and 18

Khanderao: Issue 16 postponed for future

Khanderao: b) Issue 15 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-15
TITLE- Define Conformance Targets
SUBMITTED BY- Martin Chapman 

Khanderao: Anish: Do we need to approve conformance target ?

anish: martin's original email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00000.html

anish: my response: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00014.html

anish: 1st meeting minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00048.html

anish: 2nd meeting minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00001.html

anonymous morphed into Ivana Trickovic

Khanderao: MartinC : As a conformance test we need define BPEL component type generation rules in terms of RFC-2119 . Specs does not say/should not say who/which tool does it.

Mike Edwards: the compoennt type is testable however

Mike Edwards: even though it is virtual

Khanderao: Anish: Conformance target could be BPEL file or ComponentType if it exists

Khanderao: MIkeE: Even if Component Type virtual, it is testable.

Khanderao: MikeE: It is unwise to assume "how" generation is done

Khanderao: MikeRowley: Testing is output or generator of the output?

Mike Edwards: +1

Khanderao: MikeRowley: what is tested? Anish's example gives examples of tests like generated artifacts. Testables should be take input and generate testable constraints. We do not need to say "where" but should be able to say that my software does it. 

Khanderao: MikeE: We should concentrate on consequence and not the means.

Mike Edwards: it could be done in a number of places, there is no one entity that would take a BPEL process and derive its componentType

Khanderao: MartinR: We are defining fine grained conformance constraints. Hence we should be able to test constraints like "statement x results into y".

Khanderao: Issue discussion: No conclusion. However, Anish suggested MikeR to get pick up a section that talks about componentType and propose examples of conformance constraints and target. Discussion would continue over email and future meeting.


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Subject [sca-bpel] Groups - SCA-BPEL Weekly meeting modified


SCA-BPEL Weekly meeting has been modified by Dr. Anish Karmarkar

Date:  Thursday, 10 April 2008
Time:  08:00am - 09:00am PT

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Agenda:
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Rotating list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of April 03, 2008 meeting minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00012.html

5. Action items review
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/action_items.php

#0021 chairs to follow up with Mary to post the CD docs to OASIS repository
	
#0033 Editors to apply the necessary changes to incorporate MikeR's proposed addition [1] to the Issue 14 resolution [2]
    [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200803/msg00051.html
    [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200804/msg00001.html#d1e71

#0034 Editors to revise some spec sections to apply RFC 2119 terminology while using concrete conformance targets
	
#0035 Create a proposal for Issue 16 - Ambiguous Service Resolution [1]
    [1] http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-16

#0036 MikeE to raise an issue with the liaison subcommittee regarding RelaxNG/Schematron

6. New Issues

None so far.

7. Issue Discussion

a) Issue 16 http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-16
TITLE- Ambigous Service Resolution
SUBMITTED BY- Dieter Koenig

b) Issue 15 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-15
TITLE- Define Conformance Targets
SUBMITTED BY- Martin Chapman

c) Issue 18 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
TITLE- Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119 keywords/statements
SUBMITTED BY- KHANDERAO KAND

8. AOB

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Rotating scribe list:
* Moser, Mr Simon; IBM (11/15/07)
* van der Rijn, Danny; TIBCO Software Inc. (12/06/07)
* Trickovic, Mrs Ivana; SAP AG (1/27/08)
* Kand, Khanderao; Oracle Corporation (9/20/07, 1/31/08)
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok; Oracle Corporation (11/29/07, 2/21/08)
* Chapman, Dr Martin; Oracle Corporation (9/7/07, 12/13/07, 2/28/08)
* Barreto, Dr. Charlton; Adobe Systems (10/11/07, 03/20/08)
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb; TIBCO Software Inc. (10/4/07, 2/14/08, 3/27/08)
* Koenig, Mr Dieter; IBM (10/25/07, 1/10/08, 3/13/08, 4/3/08)


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