Re: [soa-rm] Architectural Scope of Reference Model

[Matthew MacKenzie <mattm@adobe.com>]

I like publication much better than discovery, but am still defending 
Advertisement, because I feel that the service really is "advertising" 
itself. e.g. "To Whom it may concern: I am a foobar service reachable 
via ___ at ___.  I speak the following languages: _____".
Rex Brooks wrote:

> I have held off commenting on the term advertising simply because I am 
> biased, due to my long involvement with the practice of advertising as 
> an art director and designer. I convinced myself that this different 
> context in some way disqualified  my understanding of the term due to 
> my involvement in the commercial context. However, having thought 
> about it more, I think I should go ahead and say I have two point in 
> relation to this term.
>
> 1. The definition of Advertising as a commercial practice as I 
> understood it has always been: Communication of messages with the 
> intent of obtaining favorable consideration for the party seeking such 
> consideration.
>
> 2. I think the term Publication is more accurate since that the 
> Service Provider is actually doing: providing public information about 
> the availability of the service.
>
> Ciao,
> Rex
>
> At 2:27 PM -0700 4/11/05, Duane Nickull wrote:
>
>> Francis:
>>
>> Discovery is described in the WSA from W3C in section 2.3.3.1 very well.
>>
>> "There are various means by which discovery can be performed. Various 
>> things - human end users or agents - may initiate discovery. 
>> Requester entities may find service descriptions during development 
>> for static binding, or during execution for dynamic binding. For 
>> statically bound requester agents, using discovery is optional, as 
>> the service description might be obtained in other ways, such as 
>> being sent directly from the provider entity to the requester entity, 
>> developed collaboratively, or provided by a third party, such as a 
>> standards body."
>>
>> For something to be discovered, it must first be in a format that 
>> allows discovery to happen. That is the act of advertising it. 
>> Discovery happens ONLY after something is available to be discovered.
>>
>> Duane
>>
>> Francis McCabe wrote:
>>
>>> Is discovery of the essence or advertising? If I discover how to use 
>>> your service by some kind of reverse engineering -- you did not 
>>> advertise it but I discovered it -- and can therefore use it!
>>> Frank
>>
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>>
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