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Subject: Re: [tab-askthetab] [Fwd: [askthetab] errata question] - Question2
Martin, Martin Chapman wrote: > Excellent point Mary. Some Board members are unhappy with the current restrictive errata process, so maybe we can think about this > under TAB-Process. I know there have been Board level talks under the Process SC about forming a new TC to maintain or revise a spec > from a closed down TC, but there are significant IPR issues related to members of the old TC, members of a new tc, and obligations. > In other words a mine field. > > True, but helping provide safe harbors or navigation of that minefield or even better, reducing the complexity of that minefield, as it relates to standards, is something OASIS and similar organizations are uniquely suited to undertake. Any one member of OASIS could decide on an internal policy and that might be well and good for them but it would not have the impact of the rather large share of IT interests who are members of OASIS adopting a particular policy. Not that OASIS could change the laws governing IPR issues but it certainly can be the locus of broad agreements that further the interests of its members. For example, improvements that reduce the amount of search and clearance investment that is made by some members on their patent portfolios would help increase their bottom lines in these troubled times. > Maybe the best thing to do is insist all charters include time (e.g 6 months) after getting to OS in order to be able to process > typical maintainance requests (which of course can be adopted using the normal TC process). > > That seems like an awfully short period for the discovery of maintenance issues. And being mindful if there were substantive issues, they could well take more than 6 months to resolve. By way of comparison, the JTC 1 process has a 5 year periodic review cycle and the ability to maintain standards even in absence of the originating SC. Besides, standards are supposed to be important enough to persist. That implies to me that the TC process, including IPR, should be geared to further that goal. Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend! Patrick > Martin. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mary McRae >> Sent: 15 January 2009 16:26 >> To: 'Patrick Durusau' >> Cc: 'Martin Chapman'; 'William Cox'; 'Ask The TAB' >> Subject: RE: [tab-askthetab] [Fwd: [askthetab] errata question] - Question 2 >> >> Hi Patrick, >> >> That happens in the process SC (whatever it's called - Hal chairs). We >> come up with improvements, suggestions, proposals and then Martin - as TAB >> rep to the Board Process Committee - submits them on behalf of the TAB. I >> log it and Jeff M. schedules it for discussion. >> >> m >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Patrick Durusau [mailto:patrick@durusau.net] >>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:01 AM >>> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >>> Cc: Martin Chapman; William Cox; Ask The TAB >>> Subject: Re: [tab-askthetab] [Fwd: [askthetab] errata question] - >>> Question 2 >>> >>> Mary, >>> >>> Mary McRae wrote: >>> >>>> I've actually already sent a reply to him - will forward to askthetab >>>> list. while in general "what makes for a substantive change" or "how >>>> to handle errata" would be a good thing for the TAB to create, this >>>> really was a "here's the TC Process rule and an example" which I >>>> >>> answered. >>> >>> I assume it would be appropriate to draw on the experience of the TAB >>> to >>> comment on the TC process on errata? As you know, I am concerned in >>> particular with how the errata process at OASIS can be coordinated with >>> others in an increasingly pluralistic standards universe. To enable >>> that >>> sort of coordination, I suspect it will take more than trivial mapping >>> of terminology. Issues range from who can suggest, who responds, what >>> to >>> do post-TC (is there a time when "maintenance" stops for example?). >>> That >>> seems to me to be a first step, before even considering more complex >>> issues of relationships with other organizations. >>> >>> Hope you are having a great day! >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Martin Chapman >>>> <martin.chapman@oracle.com <mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If it breaks backwards compatibility it would be substantive. >>>> >>>> If they have schema examples of what they want to change from and >>>> to that would be good to illustrate. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Martin. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* William Cox [mailto:wtcox@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com >>>> <mailto:wtcox@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com>] >>>> *Sent:* 14 January 2009 20:34 >>>> *To:* Ask The TAB >>>> *Subject:* [tab-askthetab] [Fwd: [askthetab] errata question] - >>>> Question 2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This is Question 2. I'll put it in the archives later today. >>>> >>>> bill >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *William Cox* >>>> Email: wtcox@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com >>>> <mailto:wtcox@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com> >>>> Web: http://www.CoxSoftwareArchitects.com >>>> +1 862 485 3696 mobile >>>> +1 908 277 3460 fax >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mary P McRae >>>> Manager of TC Administration, OASIS >>>> mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> >>>> voip: 603.232.9090 >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Patrick Durusau >>> patrick@durusau.net >>> Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 >>> Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) >>> Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 >>> Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >> generates this mail. 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