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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 10 April 2013 14:00UTC
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC TELECONFERENCE WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2013 14:00UTC
ATTENDANCE
Atlantic teleconference:
Oriol Bausa
Kees Duvekot
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Pacific teleconference attendance:
Kenneth Bengtsson
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Tim McGrath
Andy Schoka
Referred to in minutes by first name:
Jon Bosak
Roberto Cisternino
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ubl.xml.org/events
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201304/msg00011.html
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201304/msg00008.html
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80
- voting status is determined by the following:
- existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
maintain voting status
- non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
voting status
UBL 2.1 Public Review 3
- Ken H. responsible for preparing comment response document
- awaiting formal TSC feedback to include for:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201303/msg00001.html
- received this morning:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/201304/msg00001.html
- awaiting formal PSC feedback to include for:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201304/msg00001.html
- edits for the following feedback from Jon awaiting model
changes from PSC:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201304/msg00002.html
UBL 2.1 Release Time-line
Status of the time-line
- comments received during public review 4 are accommodated in the
document model and documentation by Ken H. using TSC and PSC responses
- committee specification draft 4 / public review draft 4 prepared
by Ken H. and submitted to TC Administration for posting/processing
- TC Administration runs public review 4 for a 15-day period
- comments received during public review 4 are accommodated,
possibly triggering another round of working draft, committee
specification draft and public review draft (but hopefully not)
- if none of the comments are material, then all of the changes
are clearly summarized and reported to OASIS TC Administration
- at a weekly meeting we request OASIS to run a Special Majority Ballot
to approve the committee specification draft as a committee
specification (CS) that can be held seven days after the close
of the public review)
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec
- three statements of use are obtained
- committee submits CS to OASIS as candidate standard
- OASIS runs a 60-day public review
- OASIS conducts a membership-wide ballot
- OASIS approves UBL 2.1 as an OASIS standard
ANS Status
- this was announced last week, has everyone reviewed it before this
week's meetings?
http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison-policy-ansi-addendum
- Ken H. approached TC Administration for guidance
- very supportive response has been received
- Pacific call comments:
- committee discussed our preference for running the BSR-8 comment period
in parallel with the OASIS 60 day membership review
- Atlantic calls:
- a number of concerns were expressed during the call
- OASIS and ANSI are both considered as North American and that no
benefit may be gained by making the effort; would non-North-American
countries be concerned that it is too North-American-centric? Would
this jeopardize any future efforts of bringing UBL through an ISO
process?
- the ANS process should be done *after* the OASIS process is fully
completed and not before, because if there is negative feedback from
ANS members then it can be accommodated in UBL 2.2 and not delay the
completion of UBL 2.1; if it is done in parallel, then the risk is
that one organization says "yes" and the other organization says "no"
and that may undermine the credibility of the organization saying "yes"
- not wise to go to only one national body, should we also be going to,
say, the Northern European countries for additional acceptance?
- possible perception of OASIS work being an out-sourced work source for
ANSI and not being independent
- Ken H. to convene a brief one-off single-agenda-item teleconference at a
time suitable for members of both Pacific and Atlantic calls to discuss
this issue, rather than try to get it done by email
- when we come to an agreement on how to proceed, Ken H. to ask TC
Administration for guidance on the appropriate motions and ballots and
any specification modifications required for the BSR-8 review
New work product - Withholding tax
- Roberto is asking to create a new project for a document he is editing
that has Italian and English versions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201304/msg00009.html
- for the information of TC members, Ken H. distinguished the three kinds of
work products possible from the TC:
- standards track - the document has a conformance clause
- approval goes either to Committee Specification
or all the way to an OASIS Standard
- non-standards track - the document does not have a conformance clause
- Committee Note - the document has
numbered sections
and subsections
- White Paper - the document does not have numbered
sections and subsections
- AGREED to support this new work product as a Committee Note
- Oriol offered to help with the document
- Roberto to be asked to supply the following information:
- editors of the documents
- schedule of completion
- which mail list will be used for open discussions
- where will drafts be publicly stored (ITLSC Kavi repository or main UBL
TC repository?)
- Ken H. has started discussions with TC Administration for management of the
process and the document templates to use DocBook for a Committee Note
TC CONCALL SCHEDULE
Continuing with the dates and times established late in 2012, adjusted
for daylight savings time:
Pacific call date/time: Wednesdays 00:00UTC
Atlantic call date/time: Wednesdays 14:00UTC
(Note the Pacific call takes place Tuesday evenings west of the
Atlantic Ocean)
Week of 2013-04-08 - regularly scheduled calls
Week of 2013-04-15 - regularly scheduled calls
Week of 2013-04-22 - regularly scheduled calls
Week of 2013-04-29 - regularly scheduled calls
2013-09-10/12 - UBL TC Face to Face in Kars, Ontario (Ottawa airport - YOW)
Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For
privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
OTHER BUSINESS
None
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