Re: [bcm] Applying BCM

["Carl Mattocks" <carlmattocks@checkmi.com>]

Acknowledged - eprXML has much to offer. BUT most folks would have a steep
learning curve when trying to figure out whether it is relevant to them. I
would not like the success of BCM to be dependent upon the success of
people having the patience to investigate eprXML.

On the other hand - many Business Centric folks (including those in
government departments)  understand what a General Ledger is ... and if
they need an  XML Template / Ontology then xbrl provides full taxonomic
data definitions.
http://www.xbrl.org/resourcecenter/dettaxonomies.asp?sid=22&taxoid=5


<quote who="David RR Webber">
> Carl,
>
> I forgot to connect the dots for you here.
>
> The key thing about eprXML is that the application layer
> is going to be available in opensource once they've finished
> the initial development effort.
>
> Cheers, DW.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Mattocks" <carlmattocks@checkmi.com>
> To: "'BCM OASIS'" <bcm@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [bcm] Applying BCM
>
>
>> Agreed - the eprXML work provides a good reference for XML. However,
>> eprXML itself is not an obvious 'Business Driver' unlike becoming
>> compliant with Sarbanes Oxley and the Patriot Act which  make demands on
>> 'financial reporting' . I also favor referencing templates /ontologies
>> developed by agencies who will steward them for many years to come (e.g.
>> HL7, ACORD,  GAAP ).
>>
>> <quote who="David RR Webber">
>> > Neil / Carl,
>> >
>> > We also have a ready made example in the eprXML work Hans
>> > has ongoing.
>> >
>> > I'd definately like help with all this.  We have a 'to do' to build
>> some
>> > sample templates from the Folders and  Tssk Cards - to show how
>> > business managers can use either Excel or Word to manage the
>> > rules and selections in the folders and task cards - and then export
>> > this to XML that then actually configures Hans' eprXML system.
>> >
>> > It would be fabulous if we could get that done as a first base - then
>> > we could take those and extend them to these other areas - as usual
>> > once people have one example to key off...
>> >
>> > If you look at Hans' eprXML PPT again (Kavi) - you will see the
>> > UI components I'm referencing - basically its the Portal idea - plus
>> > the use of task cards in the individual users work desktop areas.
>> >
>> > We need the heirarchy and rules that determine when a user sees
>> > what.  We could use the CAM XML as the target for this - since
>> > it has the <BusinessContext> section that is a great fit.
>> >
>> > Cheers, DW.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Neil Wasserman" <nwasserman@adaptiveservices.com>
>> > To: <carlmattocks@checkmi.com>; "'BCM OASIS'"
>> <bcm@lists.oasis-open.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 7:45 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [bcm] Applying BCM
>> >
>> >
>> >> I agree with this sentiment.  BCM has so far provided a general
>> >> framework
>> >> and philosophy for how to deal with interacting communities of
> interest.
>> > To
>> >> make this tangible to implementers and business decision makers, we
> need
>> > to
>> >> focus on how BCM applies to particular categories of service
>> >> interactions
>> >> among CoIs.  If we can pick one or two domains in which we as a group
>> >> have
>> >> experience and address service interactions within those domains,
>> then
>> >> we
>> >> can develop templates, methods, and examples that would be meaningful
> to
>> >> those outside our immediate network.  Candidate domains would be
>> egov,
>> >> insurance, telecom.
>> >>
>> >> It would also be helpful to map important interactions with other
>> > standards
>> >> efforts, CAM, registry, ebXML, egov, etc.
>> >>
>> >> I would also being will to act as co-chair or otherwise support the
> work
>> >> administratively, with a little help from my friends.
>> >>
>> >> Neil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Carl Mattocks [mailto:carlmattocks@checkmi.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 7:10 AM
>> >> To: BCM OASIS
>> >> Subject: [bcm] Applying BCM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To help BCM move forward I propose that the next phase of evolution
>> be
>> >> focused on 'Applying BCM '. Wherein, the SOA application is specified
>> > using
>> >> a Specific Type of Business Driver and a Service Oriented set of
>> >> Templates
>> > /
>> >> ontology used by Specific type of Community of Interest. In
>> particular,
>> >> I
>> >> suggest that :
>> >> Business Driver = COMPLIANCE of information systems, as in,
>> information
>> >> reports demanded by Sarbanes Oxley, Patriot Act, etc .
>> >> Service Oriented Templates / ontology = XRBRL [
>> >> http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2002-03-05-a.html ]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If we can reach agreement that the next phase is about delivering a
>> >> methodology examplar which a majority of Business Service Architects
> can
>> >> 'deeply' relate to  - I would be willing to act as co-chair.
>> >>
>> >> --

>


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