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Subject: Re: [egov] Re: [huml] The Office of Justice Programs's (OJP) Justice XML Data Dictionay
Thanks, Duane, This has been an instructive thread for me. I will follow-up as best I can and I look forward to investigating the Yellow Dragon registry product along with some other tools in the not too distant future. Ciao, Rex At 3:05 PM -0700 5/19/03, Duane Nickull wrote: >David / Rex et al: > >Thanks for the CC. > >What you both suggest is certainly feasible given the existing OASIS >Registry specs (well the ebXML one anyways - I am not sure you could >accomplish this in a UDDI registry). RDF schemes to classify sets >of registry content is something that will likely be done. IMO - it >may be akin to creating an extra layer however (unless I have >somehow missed some of this thread which I suspect may be true). >Since RDF is itself a classification scheme, having the Registry >classification scheme point at an RDF set first, which in turn >points at a the actual registry objects, may be overkill but hey - >what do I know. > >Using RDF as a classification "Guide" may be interesting and there >may be a specific use case for it however there may be a dependency >on XML itself. The built in registry classification mechanism may >be more flexible in terms of accounting for non-XML syntax (UML). > >David has been working on an important part of aggregation called >CAM (Content Assembly Mechanism). CAM would function like a schema >template whereby a user could declare the context it would be used >in, then a search of the registry would yield the appropriate >artifacts to populate the final schema instance with (assuming XML >was the end syntax - other end syntaxes may also be possible). > >CAM has an important role is providing a meta-description of payload >level aggregations. XML Schema may be useful as an expression of >CAM but RDF may alos be useful. I guess we'll have to wait for the >final draft to see what can be used. I have a sneaking suspicion >that RDF may lack the necessary cardinality (multiplicity) operators >for advanced representation of metadata. > >Yellow Dragon Software hopes ot be able to offer our registry >product for download from our website sometime within the next 3-4 >weeks. I would invite people to download an evaluation copy and >test some of these scenarios out and share their experiences with us >all. > >Interesting conversation. enjoy!! > >Duane Nickull >-- >Yellow Dragon Software - http://www.yellowdragonsoft.com >Service Oriented Architecture Components - ebXML, Web Services, SOAP >Project Team lead - United Nations CEFACT eBusiness Architecture >+1 (604) 726-3329 >*********************************** > > >Rex Brooks wrote: >> >>David, >>h >>We're agreed. >> >>I took the liberty of including you and Duane on the list for >>another posting related to this discussion. I look forward to >>hearing what Duane thinks. >> >>Ciao, >>Rex >> >>At 10:13 AM -0400 5/17/03, David RR Webber - XML ebusiness wrote: >> >>>Rex, >>> >>>OK - we're on the same pages here! >>> >>>BTW - I think you should look at how storing RDFs into an OASIS Registry, >>>using the classification scheme approach that OASIS provides, and >>>then creating searches against that RDF could provide you with >>>semantic cross-referencing. >>> >>>You can also manually setup associations across content, both >>>internally and externally using the registry. >>> >>>I've CC:d Duane Nickull who can followup with you offline on these >>>ideas to see how this might work. >>> >>>Always good when we can tie the work of multiple OASIS TC's >>>together to produce the required solution. >>> >>>Cheers, DW. >>>================================================================ >>>Message text written by Rex Brooks >>> >>>> >>>What I am thinking now is how a tool that produces the kind of >>>registry you describe would be very useful when applied to resources >>>from an rdf schema that accompanies a given specfication, for those >>>resources that can be used by such a tool, to produce quick >>>comparisons from which an application developer could choose the best >>>set for a given application. >>> >>>< >> >> >> > > >-- >Yellow Dragon Software - http://www.yellowdragonsoft.com >Service Oriented Architecture Components - ebXML, Web Services, SOAP >Project Team lead - United Nations CEFACT eBusiness Architecture >+1 (604) 726-3329 >*********************************** > > > >You may leave a Technical Committee at any time by visiting >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php -- Rex Brooks GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com Email: rexb@starbourne.com Tel: 510-849-2309 Fax: By Request
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