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Subject: Re: [opendocument-users] table:table required elements


Regina,

Thank you so much for your detailed explanations. That is exactly what I was looking for. I'm more used to the DTD syntax so I was not sure what to make of that rnc file.

I think though that the spec reference hosted at Oasis should contain such information by using standard markers (?/+/etc.) that would be very helpful.

Regarding the file included in emacs I found that:

table-table =
  element table:table {
    table-table-attlist,
    table-title?,
    table-desc?,
    table-table-source?,
    office-dde-source?,
    table-scenario?,
    office-forms?,
    table-shapes?,
    table-columns-and-groups,
    table-rows-and-groups,
    table-named-expressions?
  }

I guess there is the way the namespaces are written that also confused me but I could not find relevant information related to table:table-column (or table-table-column ?)

Anyway, I found the compact relax ng syntax tutorial so I'll check it too so that this kind of thing does not happen again.

Now that I know what's wrong with my file, I can proceed with the xslt :) I'll probably have a few questions then, especially regarding relevant tag attributes!

Jean-Christophe 

> On Feb 2, 2020, at 4:17, Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jean-Christophe,
> 
> Jean-Christophe Helary schrieb am 01-Feb-20 um 17:32:
>> Regina,
>> Thank you very much for your reply.
>>> It seems to me, that a "table:table-column" element is missing in your file. It is allowed, that it is empty; but it is not optional.
>> I am not so skilled as to be able to parse the relax schema and the OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html document does not seem to give that information.
>> Would you be able to tell my what I am missing in the references in my possession that is actually telling me that table:table-column is a requirement?
> 
> Using the schema manually you get:
> "table:table" refers "table-columns-and-groups"
> Unfortunately a ref has not indication, whether it is optional or not. So you need to follow it.
> "table-columns-and-groups" has _<oneOrMore>_ of either "table-table-column-group" or "table-columns-no-group".
> 
> "table-table-column-group" is element "table:table-column-group". Because emacs misses contents, we can ignore the attlist and need only follow the ref "table-columns-and-groups". That is recursive, see above.
> 
> "table-columns-no-group" has some <optional> parts, which we can ignore here. But we need to follow the ref. That is either "table-columns" or "table-table-header-columns".
> 
> "table-table-header-columns" is element "table:table-header-columns", which has _<oneOrMore>_ of ref "table-table-column".
> 
> "table-columns" has either a ref to "table-table-columns" or _<oneOrMore>_ "table-table-column"
> 
> "table-table-columns" is element "table:table-Columns", which has _<oneOrMore>_ ref "table-table-column".
> 
> So on each way we get that <oneOrMore> of "table-table-column" is needed.
> 
> 
> And finally
> 	<define name="table-table-column">
> 		<element name="table:table-column">
> 			<ref name="table-table-column-attlist"/>
> 			<empty/>
> 		</element>
> 	</define>
> 
> That is an empty element, which has some Attributes.
> 
> 
> If you use the file Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/schema/od-schema-v1.2-os.rnc, you will find, that it has a different syntax, but the same information.
> In that notation <optional> has the syntax "?" and <oneOrMore> has the syntax "+".
> 
> 
> There exists some tools to validate a file against a schema. A search should give you some, which are available for your operating system. Perhaps one of them is more verbose than emacs and tells you, which element is actually missing.
> 
> 
> A very different way might be to use ODFDOM of the odftoolkit https://odftoolkit.org/. It moved recently from 'Apache' to 'The Document Foundation'. The project has a mailing list, where you can ask, whether it is suitable for your purpose.
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina


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