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Subject: RE: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud Requirement
I've tweaked the draft charter to capture the requirements discussed below. Feel free to suggest alternative/additional wording if you feel it necessary. John -----Original Message----- From: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Neil McEvoy Sent: 23 August 2012 16:10 To: John Borras Cc: neil.mcevoy@l5consulting.net; public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Wailing John (OCIO)' Subject: RE: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud Requirement Absolutely John. Transformation of legacy systems to enable more Agile enhancement and maintenance of them and also achieve multi-site resilience is the top line business goals I would suggest the public sector can and should seek from Cloud migration, and this could indeed be the headline purpose and value of our group. Kind regards, Neil. > Neil > > Thanks for the quick and informative response. I'm sure John will be > interested in this and will want to lift the lid on it all a bit more > with you. > > I sense from what you've said it's not an unachievable requirement > nowadays and in fact is something we should look to promote in our new > TC? > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org > [mailto:public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of > Neil McEvoy > Sent: 23 August 2012 15:27 > To: John Borras > Cc: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Wailing John > (OCIO)' > Subject: Re: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud > Requirement > > > Hi Johns > > There's a couple of points to answer this. First and simplest yes > there are vendors who do exactly that, they encapsulate your app into > a virtual container so that you can migrate it to X Cloud provider. I > can make some intros if you like. > > There are standards and common technologies relevant to this > abstraction process, in particular JClouds: http://www.jclouds.org/. > This is used by the Cloud Service Brokers to facilitate portability > across the marketplace providers for example. > > With regards to achieving active-active app replication across > multiple data centres as a result of this process, that's a bit > trickier but again there are emerging vendors catering for this. > > We actually just published a paper on this specific topic, focusing on > the Canadian imperative to address the downtime risks of their legacy > estate that their Auditor General recently identified, see "Always On > Digital > Government": > > http://cloudbestpractices.net/2012/08/13/always-on-paper/ > > Kind regards, Neil. > > > >> Please see the note from John Wailing below. Does anyone have any >> views or experience of the requirement that he has set out? Is it >> something we could include within the scope of the new TC? I'm not >> suggesting that the TC would come up with the technical answer to >> this problem but more that it's yet another requirement to add to the >> list that we are looking to produce. >> >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Wailing John (OCIO) >> [mailto:John.Wailing3@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk] >> Sent: 23 August 2012 13:35 >> To: Dee Schur >> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; Ian Osborne; McDonagh Denise; >> John Borras; Hartley Dominic >> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium >> >> Thanks for the thought. I also find that it will be impossible to >> attend. >> However, having spoken to John B, I increasingly see a need for >> someone >> (you) to get a grip on 'Cloud' standards/models. >> >> We seek the convenience, agility and economy of commoditising the >> development and hosting of our big (line of business, transactional, >> inherently reliable) systems. The trick seems to be to create the >> application to run in some abstracted hosting environment (a >> container of some description?) so that it can be hosted anywhere >> (probably in at least two places running active-active with load >> sharing). At the moment testing typically requires the developer to >> have at least one environment and the hosting service to have a least >> 2, pre-prod and prod. Some functional testing will always be needed >> but much of our testing is centred on how the application will >> perform in the production environment. Need to get away from this in >> times to come! I have glossed over rather a lot but you will get the drift! >> >> >> Regards >> John >> T: +44 (0) 20 7035 6683 M: +44 (0)780 3510072 Lorraine Tuitt >> can fix slots in my diary: 020 7035 3490 >> mailto:lorraine.tuitt@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk >> Office of the Chief Information Officer, Financial and Corporate >> Services Group, Home Office, 4th Floor SW Seacole Building, 2 Marsham >> Street SW1P 4DF >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ian Osborne [mailto:Ian.Osborne@Intellectuk.org] >> Sent: 17 August 2012 18:40 >> To: Dee Schur; McDonagh Denise; Wailing John (OCIO) >> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk' >> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium >> >> Dee, Apologies, I am unable to participate in this event owing to a >> prior commitment. Ian >> >> Ian Osborne >> ian.osborne@intellectuk.org >> M:+44 7793 258219 >> ________________________________________ >> From: Dee Schur [dee.schur@oasis-open.org] >> Sent: 17 August 2012 18:08 >> To: 'McDonagh Denise'; Home Office, John Wailing; Ian Osborne >> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; 'Dee Schur' >> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium >> >> Hi Denise, John and Ian, >> Do you have an update on your availability to speak at the >> International Cloud Symposium? Please scroll down and have a peek at >> all the policy makers that have already registered to attend, >> http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4009281870?ref=ebtnebregn >> >> Please let me know if I can answer any questions -- I look forward to >> your reply. >> Regards, >> dee >> >> Dee Schur >> Senior Manager - Standards Advocate >> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >> http://www.oasis-open.org >> +1.781.425.5073 x211 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dee Schur [mailto:dee.schur@oasis-open.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:23 PM >> To: 'McDonagh Denise'; 'john.wailing3@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk' >> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; 'Ian.Osborne@intellectuk.org' >> Subject: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium >> >> Hi Denise and John, >> We are featuring a session at the International Cloud Symposium >> (ICS), https://www.oasis-open.org/events/cloud/2012, focused on >> Digital Government to include discussions on G-Cloud and Cloud First >> activities. >> We would be grateful if either of you would consider presenting on >> the G-Cloud topic during the first session, 10 October 2012, but we >> do have flexibility if 11 October would suit you better. If this does >> not work for either of you, please feel free to recommend a >> colleague. To get an idea of the type of program we coordinate, >> please have a peek at last year's ICS website held in the London >> area, >> http://events.oasis-open.org/home/cloud/2011 >> If you have any questions or would like more information, feel free >> to contact me or Jane Harnad. I am looking forward to your reply. >> Best regards, >> dee >> >> >> Dee Schur >> Senior Manager - Standards Advocate >> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >> http://www.oasis-open.org >> +1.781.425.5073 x211 >> >> >> >> ##################################################################### >> # >> ###### >> ######### >> This email message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and has >> been cleared by MailMarshal >> ##################################################################### >> # >> ###### >> ######### >> >> >> ********************************************************************* >> * This email and any files transmitted with it are private and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >> are addressed. >> If you have received this email in error please return it to the >> address it came from telling them it is not for you and then delete >> it from your system. >> This email message has been swept for computer viruses. >> >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> >> >> The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government >> Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless >> Worldwide in partnership with MessageLabs. 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