Minutes: DITA Technical Committee on 15 September 2009

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DITA Technical Committee Meeting Minutes
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The DITA Technical Committee met on 15 September 2009 at 08:00am PT for 60 
minutes.

Chaired by Don Day <dond@us.ibm.com>
Minutes recorded by Gershon Joseph <gerjosep@cisco.com>


Roll call
> Quorum was achieved.


Approve minutes from previous business meetings: 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00120.html (8 September 2009, Gershon)
> Minutes approved by acclamation.


Subcommittee/liaison reports (as needed)

* OASIS DITA Adoption TC (today) 
  > Gershon updated the TC

  > The SC is working on the following items:
  > * selection criteria for users selecting DITA tools
    > * a vendor-oriented doc is planned for later
    > * we hope to develop a test suite of DITA content that users can
    >   use to test the tools they are considering for DITA support.

    > Don noted that the Help TC has a world time clock examples we may be able 
    > to leverage.

    > Gershon will take this note back to the TC.

  > * We are working on the following DITA feature articles:
  >   * Keyref (this one has already been published)
  >   * Generic task type (draft)
  >   * Improved link management (in progress)
  >   * Referencing a range of elements (final)
  >   * Conref by push (draft)
  >   * Acronyms and Glossaries (2 articles, one is a high-level introduction
  >     and overview, the other is a more detailed article that discusses all 
  >     related elements.

  > * SWOT analysis is still in progress.

  > * Planning a Translation Adoption SC

  > Paul raised concern on too many SCs. Long discussion...
  > Don suggestion creating guidelines for scoping and managing the formation 
  > of new SCs and existing SCs.


Announcement: 
* Technical reviewers for specialization book (Hamilton) 
  * http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00112.html 


ITEM: DITA 1.2 specification

* Business:

  * Progress report on architectural spec
    > Gershon noted that the authors are making good progress.
    > Deadlines are at risk, since there is still lots of work to be done.

  * Generic Task vs. Task topic type 
    * Need to tighten up spec wording and possibly DTDs/Schema.
    > This was discussed as part of the main work item further down in the 
      agenda.

  * Outstanding action items: 

    * Add hazard-statement graphics to applicable lang ref topics (Kravogel) 

      > Kris sent the images shortly before the meeting and will send 
      > descriptions after the meeting.
      > CLOSED.

* Follow up:

 * order for lang ref files 
   * http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00042.html (Kristen reply)
   > CONTINUED.


ITEM: Issue: glossary.dtd does not conform to 1.2 naming specs (rate as a 1.2 bug?)
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00022.html (Kimber)
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00034.html (Ogden, "1.3?")

> Eliot: Jeff agreed with me that making the change would not be disruptive. 
> The existing modules would redirect to the new ones.
> The TC agreed to rename the current glossary.* to glossentry.* and create new
> glossary.* files that redirect to the glossentry.* files. There would be no 
> functional change to the current glossary.* files. 

> The TC agreed to mark the old glossary.* as deprecated.

> Jeff: The spec should also list the reason why they are being deprecated.

> DECISION: Eliot's motion was accepted by acclamation.

> ACTION: Eliot to update the docs, DTDs and schema and put all the changes in 
> SVN.


New ITEM: History question: Why does <data> not include <cite>? 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00028.html (Kimber) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00046.html (Hennum) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00064.html (Kimber, reply)
> CLOSED.


New ITEM: Problems with the task model (new question from JoAnn) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00080.html (JoAnn) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00083.html (Kimber) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00097.html (Priestley reply to Steffen)
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00104.html (Eberlein, final assessment?) 

> DECISION: Task constraint should be added to DITABASE so that its task is 
> also constrained.

> ACTION: Robert to add task constraint to DITABASE.

> Su-Laine is concerned that the generic task type then wont be available in 
> the ditabase.
> Eliot: DITABASE is intended for conversion, not production.
> Su-Laine: That's exactly why it's more important to support it in ditabase.

> The discussion came back to the automatic shell generator discussion...

> Continue discussion on the list.
> CONTINUED.


New ITEM: Constraints support (spinoff from task model) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00082.html (Hennum, then follow the trail) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00109.html (Kimber, rollup) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00118.html (Ogden, Arbortext adoption example) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00144.html (Yeo, XMetaL adoption example) 

> CLOSED.
> Note: If JoAnn has a more specific question we can take it as an editorial 
> comment)

New ITEM: <text> should be allowed just about everywhere 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00105.html (Kimber) 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00128.html (Kimber, agreement to put onto 1.3 list) 

> ACTION: Eliot to add to the 1.3 list.
> CLOSED.

New ITEM: Bug in 1.2 DTDs with xml:lang 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00127.html (Grosso) 

> ACTION: Robert to fix the 1.2 DTDs
> CLOSED.

New ITEM: 1.3 Issue: Use FUll CALS Table 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00129.html (Kimber) 
* Don recommends putting directly to 1.3 list 

> ACTION: Eliot to add this item to the 1.3 feature list.
> CLOSED.

New ITEM: 1.3 Issue: Allow <tgroup> With <fig>/Allow 
* http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/200909/msg00131.html (Kimber) 
* Don recommends putting directly to 1.3 list 

> Eliot: Need to allow tables in figures and figures in tables.
> ACTION: Eliot to add this to the 1.3 features list including use cases and 
> scenarios.
> CLOSED.

*** Meeting Adjourned ***