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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 28 February 2024 15:00UTC - Voting meeting


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 28 February 2024 15:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2024-02-28T15:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Peter Borresen

Kees Duvekot

Sander Fieten

Yves Jordan

Ole Madsen

 

Pacific call:

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)

Andrea Caccia

Ken Holman

Levine Naidoo

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

None

 

Wikipedia page

Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00018.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00016.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR TC, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Andrea Caccia

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the NEN TC 434

-  Sander Fieten

o Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC

-  Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Ole Madsen

o DK Member CEN/TC440

-  Levine Naidoo

o Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.4

 

Statements of use received:

 

-  Semantic: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202312/msg00007.html

-  Google: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/202402/msg00001.html

-  Efact: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/202402/msg00003.html

 

Does the UBL TC accept the above Statements of Use for UBL 2.4 Committee Specification 01 approved on October 17, 2023?

 

Motion made by Kenneth, seconded by Levine. Agreed all members attending the Pacific and Atlantic calls.

 

Subject to the approval of the Statements of Use, does the UBL TC approve that the chair request that OASIS hold a Special Majority Vote to approve submitting UBL 2.4 CS01 to the OASIS membership as a candidate for OASIS Standard?

 

Motion made by Kenneth, seconded by Levine. Agreed all members attending the Pacific and Atlantic calls.

 

UBL 2.5

 

Deprecation Policy

 

The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)

-  https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)

 

Publishing tools

 

Implement deprecation support in the UBL tools and publishing environment.

 

Erlend has presented a strawman proposal for a YAML-format for documenting 2.5 work: https://github.com/klakegg/oasis-ubl-model. Agreed that the functionality added by a structured format adds value, not least when adding the complexity of deprecated components. A “front end” layer will be needed for business users to maintain the files.

 

Master spreadsheets for UBL 2.5 are available here:

-  Library elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18o1YqjHWUw0-s8mb3ja4i99obOUhs-4zpgso6RZrGaY/

-  Document elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1024Th-Uj8cqliNEJc-3pDOR7DxAAW7gCG4e-pbtarsg/

 

Ken has created a list of changes based on Definition and Cardinality that can be used to populate the “Last change” column: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00013.html. Kenneth will work on updating the spreadsheet models.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kees.

 

Semantic library review

 

Documents reviewed by the TC:

 

-  ApplicationResponse

-  AttachedDocument

-  DocumentStatus

-  DocumentStatusRequest

 

UBL 2.5 issues:

 

-  UBL-357, ESG Information elements:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357

o Ole reported that the Danish authorities are initiating work with product passport and other ESG reporting

o Input from Levine here:

§ https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357?focusedCommentId=84141&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-84141

§ https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/12125/UBL%202.5%20Library%20Elements%20Spreadsheet%20-%20PCF%20Elements.xlsx

o Kenneth will create a first draft for UBL 2.5 based on Levine’s data model.

o Erlend will set up a new Github branch to allow us to test the PCF data model.

 

-  Digital product passport discussion:

o https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202401/msg00018.html

o The TC agrees that UBL shall facilitate the requirements of the digital product passport. A new Product Passport document type will be developed for UBL 2.5.

o The requirements are not entirely clear yet. It is anticipated that the EU will send out request for standardization this year.

o CEN/CENELEC has established JTC 24 to work on the digital product passport. The UBL TC ideally would like to establish a formal liaison with JTC 24, however, the establishing of a formal way to liaise with CEN at committee level is still pending.

o Kenneth will open a new ticket to track work on the product passport data model. Peter volunteered to be assigned the ticket.

 

-  UBL-375, Standardize use of ApplicationResponse, DocumentStatus, EnquiryResponse, DocumentStatusRequest, and Enquiry:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-375

o Identified that the use of ApplicationResponse in the Billing diagrams (figures 77, 78 and 79) is incorrect. Kenneth will open a separate ticket.

 

-  UBL-376, Deprecate AttachedDocument document type:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-376

o Cecile will reach out to the European Commission to ask for the status of its use.

 

-  UBL-377, new InvoiceResponse document type:

o https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-377

 

Agreed to review supplementary components at our next face-to-face meeting, i.e., the XML attributes listed here: https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/UBL-2.4.html#T-UBL-UNQUALIFIED-DATA-TYPES

 

Can we make a tool that users can run in their local environments to create a report about the use of supplementary components?

-  Creating a stylesheet to extract the information is simple, but how do we get it out to the users? And what will we use the results for?

-  Peter will contact users of UBL to assess how much information we would be able to harvest.

 

Specification review

 

Divide specification into multiple parts. Aim is to create a multipart specification.

 

Kenneth will identify the normative parts of the prose specification and create a first draft.

 

Workgroup participants: Kees, Kenneth, Levine, and Paul.

 

JSON syntax binding

 

Develop specification for a UBL JSON syntax binding.

 

Workgroup participants: Erlend and Kenneth.

 

Subcommittee reports

 

UBL Post-award

 

Nothing

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Cecile will send a list of change requests and observations for the semantic library review.

 

Cecile is leaving the TC and stepping down as subcommittee chair. Candidates for the pre-award SC chair?

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

A TSC meeting was held Feb 20 to review the eFTI model and started mapping to UBL. Minutes available here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/202402/msg00002.html.

 

Next TSC will be held March 5.

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

Nothing

 

Payments and Finance SC

 

Nothing

 

TC Liaisons

 

CEN TCs 434 and 440

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

Last year’s SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.

 

ISO TC 323 (WG5)

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00004.html

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Face-to-face meeting

 

Time and venue for next face-to-face meeting?

 

Spring meeting:

 

-  Budapest

o Confirmed that the MSZT (Hungarian standardization body) will host our face-to-face meeting in Budapest.

o Meeting will commence May 27 midday, so that participants can travel in the morning.

-  May 27-30, 2024

o Craft Conference will be held the same week, May 30-31 (https://craft-conf.com/2024)

o XML Prague is the following week, June 6-8 (https://www.xmlprague.cz)

 

Fall meeting:

 

-  Invitation from Logius to meet in The Hague

o Peter suggested that Logius could host us back-to-back to a general UBL conference. Peter will follow up.

-  Dates? For example, after Declarative Amsterdam, for example November 11-14 2024?

 

Call schedule

 

Kenneth proposes to temporarily suspend the Pacific calls while we have no participants from the Pacific region. Pacific calls after March 5 will tentatively be canceled.

 

2024-02-27/2024-02-28

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-05/2024-03-06

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-12/2024-03-13

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-19/2024-03-20

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-03-26/2024-03-27

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/22:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-02/2024-04-03

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-09/2024-04-10

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-16/2024-04-17

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-23/2024-04-24

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-04-30/2024-05-01

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-05-07/2024-05-08

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-05-14/2024-05-15

-   Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2024-05-21/2024-05-22

-   Canceled

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Other business

 

OASIS is organizing a roundtable April 11 in Paris on the fashion and textile industry to discuss how UBL can be extended to facilitate ESG data compliance. Participation is by invitation only. UBL TC members are encouraged to participate and to present. Potential TC participants, please contact Kenneth.

 



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