Re: [regrep] [Fwd: [regrep-semantic] IBM BI-ICS]

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

David RR Webber wrote:
> 
> Anne,
> 
> There certainly are no hard and fast rules around standards.

Depends on the domain in which you function of course - in the US
federal domain, we point to OMB Circular A-119[1], which defines what a
"voluntary consensus standard (VCS)" is.

Joe

[1] http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/circulars/a119/a119.html
 
> However - I suspect we often clarify this by using metrics
> that denote when things are clearly NOT an open standard -
> such as license fees, use agreements and solely own
> implementations.  One also expects good neighbour
> behaviours and contributions to the better good - rather
> than hidden agendas and clear attempts to bait-and-hook
> or displace one practice with another.
> 
> So - when something is obviously the equivalent of open
> source - and indeed much open source itself - then it
> has the possiblity of becoming recognized as a de facto
> standard.  I'd say your WS-Addressing is looking
> like coming under this umbrella.
> 
> The one that I always like to reference is PKZIP of
> course that is the exception that proves the rule(s).
> 
> Thanks, DW.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <anne@manes.net>
> To: "Monica J. Martin" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>; "Chiusano Joseph"
> <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> Cc: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>; <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [regrep] [Fwd: [regrep-semantic] IBM BI-ICS]
> 
> > For the most part I prefer to reference standards works as opposed to
> > private works, but I make exception for some things -- especially when
> they
> > provide essential functionality AND when they contain an open copyright
> > notice. Such is the case with WS-Addressing.
> >
> > WS-Addressing provides essential functionality -- a standard mechanism to
> > reference a Web service endpoint. In my opinion, it's one of the most
> > critical WS specifications published last year. I am not aware of any
> > competitive effort that is currently defining this type of mechanism.
> >
> > And I suggest you read the copyright notice [1]. It the most open spec
> > notice I've ever seen.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/ws-addressing.asp
> >
> > Anne
> >
> >
> > At 11:01 PM 3/18/2004, Monica J. Martin wrote:
> >
> > >>>Chiusano: I completely agree - a perfect example is WS-Addressing,
> which is
> > >>>referred to in multiple emerging open specifications (too numerous to
> > >>>mention).
> > >>
> > >>mm1: WS-Addressing is an emerging specification. It is not open (only
> > >>available on a web site).
> > >
> > >mm2: Correction, I misread your sentence Joe. There are at least two
> > >specifications in an open standards organization that do reference
> > >WS-Addressing. Thanks.
> > >
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